Brachos 42- Brachos on Fruit and Wine during the meal, Mayim Achronim,End of Meal, Bracha as a group - a podcast by Eran Netkin

1. Making a Hamotzi on בכיסנין הבאה פת
The berachah for בכיסנין הבאה פת is generally a mezonos, since it is usually eaten as a snack, but Rav
Nachman rules that if one eats enough of it to establish a meal on (סעודה קובע ,(the berachah would
be hamotzi.
2. When is a meal considered completed?
The Gemara discusses the point at which a meal is considered completed, when no more food may
be eaten before reciting Birkas Hamazon.
- Rav Huna says it is when one finishes eating the meal.
- Rav Pappa says it is when the bread and food are removed from the table.
- Rava says that guests are dependent on the host’s intentions, so that if the host brings
additional portions to the table even after the removal of the food and bread, it may still be eaten.
- Rav says that if one is accustomed to anoint his hands with oil on finishing a meal, then as long
as he has not anointed his hands he may continue eating, even after he finishes the meal, and even
after the food is removed from the table.
The Gemara concludes that the halachah follows what Rav Chiya bar Ashi says in the name of Rav,
that the washing of the hands after the meal )אחרונים מים )is followed immediately by Birkas
Hamazon, meaning that there may be no more eating after washing אחרונים מים.
3. One making a berachah on behalf of a group
The Mishnah infers that in order for one person in a group to make a berachah for the others, the
group must be reclining, not just sitting. The Gemara later concludes that if the group verbally states
their intention to eat together, then sitting is considered like reclining.
Siman – Mobster
As part of their initiation, the newly recruited mobsters were required to make a berachah for the
group on a meal’s worth of בכיסנין הבאה פת ,and then correctly guess that אחרונים מים is when the
mob boss considers the meal over.
Key Words - בכיסנין הבאה פת Hamotzi, meal over, group berachah

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