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Navigating Never, Never: “Our Transformation is deep inside where we said we would never, never, go; we all need more information and discussion to successfully navigate our new never. ‘You are Never coming back once you transform.'” Ken Sinclair, editor, Automated Buildings

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Further podcasts by Eric Stromquist and Ken Smyers: HVAC and Smart Buildings Controls Experts

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