The Reformer - a podcast by Pur Production

Victoria has the highest rate of the removal of children from their birth family in Australia.

Michael Perusco, CEO of Berry Street, joins us for a conversation on why and how we need to shift our thinking away from a system grounded in the late and punitive to one informed by a safety first early intervention model to create a fairer system for families and children. A model that deals with causes, rather than outcomes.

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